Talk:California Proposition 17, Car Insurance "Persistency Discounts" (June 2010)

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Consumers First

Is the "Consumers First" organization listed as an endorsing organization the same as the "Consumers First" organization that has received $30,000 from the "Yes on 17" campaign. Polycal 12:05, 9 February 2010 (CST)

Confusing language

"Proponents argue" and "Opponents argue" is synonymous with "Proponents lie" and "Opponents lie", but what is the fact? Voters are not voting for dispute, but for the text of the Proposition 17. What the Prop says about the claims, and are any rate increases subject to the approval of the Commissioner? If she approves, she can't blame it on the Prop. Barefact 03:50, 11 May 2010 (CDT)